tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post3085656534004757736..comments2024-03-29T14:07:48.770+03:00Comments on SUSIE of ARABIA: Her Eyes Are Too Sexy!Susie of Arabiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-6076988403949522482015-11-12T05:12:44.800+03:002015-11-12T05:12:44.800+03:00the problem is with their man.. they cannot handle...the problem is with their man.. they cannot handle and control their naf, they ask women to cover everything for them.. yet they still imagine nasty thing about women. i hate this..Melissa Meowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013448051664158748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-35939045456297700592011-04-19T01:24:56.872+03:002011-04-19T01:24:56.872+03:00To Anon @ 12:08 AM - I did write a 4-part series a...To Anon @ 12:08 AM - I did write a 4-part series about a British woman I know who was "Widowed in Saudi Arabia" a while back. She was trapped in a nightmare being stuck in Saudi Arabia for many years. She finally escaped this past year with her two children and is now safe and free. <br />The 1st post will take you to the rest of the installments, as well as the final update, written many months later.<br />http://susiesbigadventure.blogspot.com/2009/04/widowed-in-saudi-arabia-part-1.htmlSusie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-18112722221143474822011-04-19T00:08:50.045+03:002011-04-19T00:08:50.045+03:00Hello Susie, I'm an Black American woman. The ...Hello Susie, I'm an Black American woman. The way Saudi women are treated in very disturbing to me. I know this isn't following w/the exact conversation here, but what happens to American women there if there spouses pass away. I will join later, just curious about it. A co-worker told me about your site today & it just furthers my stance that this world as a whole better change soon. My heart breaks for these women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-66050652555875449352011-01-12T23:06:44.259+03:002011-01-12T23:06:44.259+03:00Right. He accuses her of immorality, and stabs her...Right. He accuses her of immorality, and stabs her husband with a knife to prove his point. Typical ideologue. They have no self knowledge.Helenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01819796384565573135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-81278519440127076562010-12-02T17:00:42.603+03:002010-12-02T17:00:42.603+03:00Susie - FYI - I assume you have retained your US C...Susie - FYI - I assume you have retained your US Citizenship, right? Then if your husband isn't willing to stand up for you in a confrontation with the PVPV, know that the US Government is.<br /><br />From the US State Dept Web site - "U.S. citizens who are involved in an incident with the Mutawwa should report the incident to the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh or the U.S. Consulates General in Jeddah or Dhahran." <br />http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1012.html#country. <br /><br />I keep their numbers on my cell phone and a copy of the Saudi Embassy's dress code directive for non-Muslim women in KSA in my purse in English and Arabic. <br /><br />I appreciate your circumstances are somewhat different, but again, as an American citizen, there's no need to sit back and take it. <br /><br />As far as the PVPV, they will keep pushing for more and more control over women until Saudi Arabs - both men and women - say enough is enough and stop allowing themselves to be intimidated. That day isn't here yet, but every stupid move by the PVPV brings it closer. This one included.<br /><br />Take care - LoriLorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10668192168400882599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-26450609523822697612010-11-28T14:12:47.256+03:002010-11-28T14:12:47.256+03:00Angela,
I think the only thing revolting around h...Angela,<br /><br />I think the only thing revolting around here is you. <br /><br />And please put your own house in order, before you come around fixing other people home.<br /><br />Just by the tone and aggression of your post, you reveal yourself as the biggoted, racist person you're..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-9290265187214380722010-11-27T09:41:52.899+03:002010-11-27T09:41:52.899+03:00This article had to be one of the very worst ever ...This article had to be one of the very worst ever showcasing “perfect Islamic” Saudi Arabia. <br /><br />The very idea that women, whether Muslim or not, are forced to cover themselves in a black tent so that the barbaric, sex obsessed Saudi males do not get tempted is revolting! The majority of the people on the planet seem to be doing just fine and do not have to place their women into walking prisons or control them at every waking and sleeping moment. <br /><br />Susie asks:<br /><br /> <i>“When in the world are Saudi men ever going to be held responsible for their actions and control themselves around women, instead of blaming and punishing women for every little nasty thought they have?”</i><br /><br />The answer is: <br /><br />When Muslims in general are held responsible for their own actions, instead of blaming others for their fate. No doubt, that will on the Last Day. <br /><br /><br />I cannot agree with your husband’s stance, Susie. It is cowardly to my mind. No Western male would permit his wife being humiliated in such a manner. <br /><br />ynotoman stated: <i>”In the eastern province during one of the numerous Gulf Wars a PVPV enforcer saw US army woman unveiled in the middle of town . So he went up to her and ranted unintelligibly at her. As he was small she did what any self respecting woman US soldier would do – she picked him up so he could look her in the eye . His rants and raves stopped remarkably quickly . Could it be that the PVPV only pick on people they can control ?”</i><br /><br />Reading my mind. <br /><br />As a woman I would arm myself with a stick at the very least under that black-sack, as have a number of Muslim women, and strike back if such a crazy religious supremacist were to attack me. I demand respect! Evidently, Muslim women, especially Saudi women do not. <br /><br />How you and other women in KSA tolerate this oppression is simply beyond me. <br /><br /><i>“...single men should be segregated from family environments”</i> says one of your readers. One asks: Why should men be treated like savages? That seems to be at the root of the problem, that neither women or men are treated or expected to behave like responsible human beings. <br /><br />Why don’t the men cover themselves in a bag and put blinders on so that they are not “tempted” to sin, since their fevered brains appear to be consumed by sin? Saudi men are notorious for sinning both inside and outside of KSA. They go to Dubai, to India, to Thailand, to the West and indulge their decadent fantasies, yet they support the Saudi prison system? <br /><br /><br />There is no hope for such people still living in the dark ages, who accomplish nothing but want to control everything. <br /><br />One can get physically ill just thinking about this revolting custom. It appears that the whole society needs a psychiatrist! <br /><br />I agree with A Canadian Reader who said: <i>”...You're suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Get out. Now.”</i>Maranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-89225423206755975662010-11-24T13:50:33.730+03:002010-11-24T13:50:33.730+03:00Hi Susie, I'm glad I found your blog. I love A...Hi Susie, I'm glad I found your blog. I love Arabic culture and I will move to the Middle East in the summer, after one year living in China.<br />I respect all traditions and am more than ready to adapt to any custom. I am adapting to Chinese culture and especially at the beginning it hasn't been easy!<br />I must say, however, that sometimes the news from Saudi Arabia leave me speechless. I myself find disturbing if women walk half-naked in the streets, but I think a too restrictive society is frustrating both for women and men.<br /><br />I guess all extremes are negative and to be avoided as much as possible.<br /><br />Let alone the stepping-on-the-tent part, when I visited Sheikh Zayed mosque in Abu Dhabi I kept stepping on the abayah, probably it's a matter of getting used to it...<br /><br />I really appreciate your blog, very useful to understand a country little mentioned otherwise.Angelahttp://travelcalling.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-11731956892679599412010-11-21T19:11:32.161+03:002010-11-21T19:11:32.161+03:00salaam and hello. For those who have not lived in ...salaam and hello. For those who have not lived in Saudi its very very very hard to undrstand the situation there. Yes this stuff does happen, but its not all black and white. When I was there both dh and I hated the overt sexism/racism which is so blatant, but its not like every Saudi is like that. We grew close to many Saudi families and they totally adopted us and they found this "haia" behavior totally ludacris.<br /><br />Also Saudi is a huge country and different regions have different cultures, Islamic slants and backgrounds. Like in the central portion, the nejd the "haia" have a lot more power as its more accepted there. In the EP where I was, the Shia community is huge as there is also a huge Expat community so frankly, you dont see members of the "haia" acting as they would maybe in Riyadh. Its just not OK. Also, not all "haia" are bad, uneducated creeps...dh taught at a University and had a few guys who were haia in his classes and although he didnt agree with their viewpoints, they actually all got together a few times to have discussions on Islam. DH and I are both practicing Muslims but not of the same madhab as them, and dh was surprised at how many of them have a understanding and love for like Rumi and Hafez...LOL, many had lived abroad...the biggest difference is they were raised to believe that their slant on Islam was the 100% true/accurate one and they felt it was their duty to teach it to other Muslims to "save them" and bring them to the right madhab. Overall dh said he enjoyed discussions with them, although they didnt sway him one bit, but kind of socializing with them a bit heled him to understand their mentality. I obv freaked out when I heard this, but hey...they are human like anyone else.<br /><br />And one major erk to their presence is that during the times when they are out and about in malls or suqs, there is less skeezy behavior from Saudi men. Like they wont stalk and harrass women as much because they know the haia are around.<br /><br />So eh, Saudi is a mixed bag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-16328265666953316442010-11-19T20:16:51.298+03:002010-11-19T20:16:51.298+03:00From what I understand the villagers should be mor...From what I understand the villagers should be more afraid for their farm animals. I guess burros in black and those poor sheep are on the next hit list. hee haw......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-65018833525758607912010-11-18T22:07:18.557+03:002010-11-18T22:07:18.557+03:00djd, hularious!!!! *Have you hugged a pvpv today*!...djd, hularious!!!! *Have you hugged a pvpv today*!!!!!!<br /><br />Woehahahahahaaa! I can see some movies in my head now which are pretty funny!!!!!<br />Hihihihihhiiiiii<br />I think this could be a good cartoon!!!Aafke-Arthttp://aafke-art.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-59436436664977930052010-11-18T20:07:47.371+03:002010-11-18T20:07:47.371+03:00Interestingly, Veeds of Arabia is currently Veeds ...Interestingly, Veeds of Arabia is currently Veeds of Southern Ontario (Canada) for another few days where the women are as covered up as a proper Saudi...due of course to the delightful continual combination of cold rain and wind.<br /><br />I believe there is an absolutely <i>fundamental</i> difference in cultural mindset that separates Saudi men's behavior from both Western and even other Gulf Staters. That is, in certain cultures such as KSA the enforcement of social norms is externally oriented whereas Western cultures require internal regulation. In other words, in many Western cultures, each man is responsible for his own thoughts and behaviors whereas in KSA we confer that regulatory action on the surrounding society...notably the muttawa, who are simply surrogates or stand-ins for the rest of society. Much like the old model of an American small town where citizens daren't act out because there was a whole network of neighbors and townspeople to "punish" transgressors and keep them from giving in to what they would consider immoral impulses. Thus, in KSA society, the individual is freed of the need to rein in his impulses because he is fully aware that society (in the form of muttawa as well as other tut-tutters) is ever on guard. The muttawa are the safety net for the tightrope walkers who might otherwise be lured by the seduction of two naked eyes.Veeds of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609079024522754584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-54204684591699172812010-11-18T11:38:35.542+03:002010-11-18T11:38:35.542+03:00Well, with Adnan's health as it is you really ...Well, with Adnan's health as it is you really don't have any choice I think.<br />The are alll madman, and the best thing is not to wear too much, If you don't wear a scarf it is, ''Cover your hair'', if you wear a scarf it will be ''Cover your face'' And when you cover your face it will be cover your eyes, etc.<br /><br />Oh well there isn't much more you can cover.<br />Anyway, these guys are raving madman, and as we see here, quite capable of stabbing an unarmed man in the back, meaning he attacked from the back, the coward.<br />And they are the ones protected by the government, not you.<br />So unless you are sure you cand knkock him down, you ahve no choice, you live in a sick theocratic tyrannic dysfunctional madhouse. Better realize it.Aafke-Arthttp://aafke-art.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-69868895105518403812010-11-18T03:58:45.747+03:002010-11-18T03:58:45.747+03:00Anonymous ... I'm quite sure that Canadian Rea...Anonymous ... I'm quite sure that Canadian Reader has a much better understanding of what 'Stockholm Syndrome' is than most people reading this blog. She has a good point and she understands why Susie got her son out. Anyway, I guess it's for Susie to say and not us.Wendynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-6506725472031898102010-11-17T22:27:21.241+03:002010-11-17T22:27:21.241+03:00Hi Susie and Eid Mubarak!
I've had many run in...Hi Susie and Eid Mubarak!<br />I've had many run ins with Haia lately and it seems to me as if their behavior has become worse. They've been literally harassing me and my friends..<br />I wrote a post about it because I was so upset as to why they are staring at us, following us around and shouting in the first place.They are a disgrace to islam!<br />What I've done now is to either ignore them totally (but in these cases it didnt work) or then say back to them "lower your gaze" which is what they are supposed to be doing!<br />I told my husband about it and he just laughed, although I think his tactic would also be to leave the scene. For me fighting this nonsense is a better option, because Ive done nothing wrong and I believe in standing up for oneself and fighting oppression. Running away would be to like giving up and accepting their bullying..Laylahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09517032571160920075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-10485562219407660342010-11-17T20:17:37.137+03:002010-11-17T20:17:37.137+03:00Canadian Reader,
It is silly for any of us to com...Canadian Reader,<br /><br />It is silly for any of us to compare a third world country to one in the first world anyway. This is not done in academia so I see no need to do it here. <br /><br />You will not even take back telling Susie she has Stockholm Syndrome, though it is evident you are unaware of what Stockholm Syndrome is?<br /><br />If not, Susie, I, and all readers of this blog would be wise to simply disregard any comment you make as it is apparent there is not informed person writing it. <br /><br />Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-29462980157940876662010-11-17T19:18:49.378+03:002010-11-17T19:18:49.378+03:00What craziness! What next?
JessieWhat craziness! What next?<br />JessieJessienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-3710812829700976742010-11-17T14:42:30.163+03:002010-11-17T14:42:30.163+03:00"Shiekh Al Nabit claiming that PVPV members h..."Shiekh Al Nabit claiming that PVPV members have every right to order women to cover their eyes if they are seductive, seditious and could push a man to sin"<br /><br />Then the same needs to be applied to men and their "sexy" eyes. Because as this "sheikh" states, the eyes can lead a man to sin so a woman can be lead to sin by a mans eyes...<br />Saudis and their "sheikhs" who are also sexist always put the blame on women. If a man commits a sin its because of women. They never take responsibility for their own actions. The saudi government reminds me of how men were before Islam came (oppressive and sexist toward women). <br />The Saudi men who disagree with the religious police and "sheikhs" need to stand up for the women because saudi is controlled by men. The only way anything is going to change is if the men speak up!!!<br />Susie, I dont know how you do it! Im a muslim and I would never live in Saudi. You are a very patient and strong woman for staying there!Rene´s Bare Essentialshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16308212836561045324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-49483361503566524742010-11-17T02:50:13.827+03:002010-11-17T02:50:13.827+03:00Anonymous,
I would not take back a single word of...Anonymous,<br /><br />I would not take back a single word of what I wrote. KSA is a giant gulag for women, including the women who stay there willingly.<br /><br />Of course, my country is not perfect. No country is, but I would be typing until next November if I were to list how much better it is for women in Canada as opposed to KSA. So I'll just stop here.A Canadian Readernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-91047606147481914852010-11-16T20:54:36.183+03:002010-11-16T20:54:36.183+03:00Me and my husband talked about this incident at le...Me and my husband talked about this incident at length. The government gives the mutawwa a little power over people and unfortunately some of them abuse it because of their mentality. They are there to remind people but the problem is HOW they remind them. When you remind people, you approach them in a respectful manner and gently advise them. Otherwise they are going to be offended, reject what you said and run away. Worse yet if you are mean to them, they will be mean right back! There is no compulsion in Islam and you can't force people to do something they don't want to do. My husband said that the mutawwa should have pulled the man aside and asked him in a nice way that his wife cover her eyes. Then if he chose not to do so then to leave them alone because you have given them a reminder so then it is between them and Allah. They should respect the fact that not all Muslims follow the same interpretation of hijab/niqab. My husband and I decided that if I was in that situation, Allah forbid, I would ignore the mutawwa and keep walking. They can follow me and shout at me until they are blue in the face. I will not give them power over me by stopping to listen to them. Why would I stop...I have committed no crime!TRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00804679664231016434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-7697904073911814822010-11-16T20:31:02.322+03:002010-11-16T20:31:02.322+03:00Since women don't have to cover their faces, I...Since women don't have to cover their faces, I think she should have ripped the face mask off completely instead of trying to comply with that silly guy by covering one of her sexy eyes.Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-27278955702247771872010-11-16T20:11:06.892+03:002010-11-16T20:11:06.892+03:00I tend to agree with Canadian Reader. I asked my h...I tend to agree with Canadian Reader. I asked my husband if he'd consider living in Saudi where his family live and he said absolutely not ... not for all the money he could make. He figured it would be the beginning of the end for us. During my extended visit to Saudi I saw how men get sucked into the male dominated way of life whether they want to or not and I didn't like what I saw. My husband didn't like the segregation and how it affects his family and even us for our short time there. <br />I hope you will visit your son for very long and extended stays, Susie. When you started your blog at the beginning of your life in KSA you sounded so happy and now I am quite worried about you as I see reality is taking it's toll.Wendynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-9935849231346968812010-11-16T19:53:13.616+03:002010-11-16T19:53:13.616+03:00TO Canadian Reader: LOL! A little dramatic, don...TO Canadian Reader: LOL! A little dramatic, don't you think? RUN....For your...LIFFFFE....Sussssssssie... <br /><br />Why are you attacking her and her family? Stockholm syndrome is a "paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express adulation and have positive feelings towards their captors that appear irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, essentially mistaking a lack of abuse from their captors as an act of kindness." Did her husband stab Susie? Does he make her stay in Saudi with him? From what I gather, NO! <br /><br />You seem to be another example of those you only look at the negative. Look at all the good things Susie has posted about...the Breast Cancer awareness, that store's program getting women to work, the youth group cleaning up the city, the modern metro. Wow! As a Canadian, you will know that Quebec woman did not even gain suffrage until 1940! Ultramodern human rights promoting politically correct Switzerland gave women that right in, oh, what was it, 1971? So as opposed to these western nations, for a THIRD WORLD country, Saudi looks like there is definitely progressing. Don't you agree? <br /><br />There are statistics showing that Saudi Arabia is one of the safest places to live-Susie herself has stated her feeling of security there. From what I gather, the violence that "police" man used is not acceptable there either and is very unusual. <br /><br />Do you have the same reaction when these things happen in Canada? Look at our own country first!! How many innocent people have the RCMP killed? With tasers alone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ8hbCAu2ks <br /><br />The man was wrong to do this, no doubt. Saudi is not perfect, I get it. But these things happen in Canada. It is disgusting. The difference is that our country is first world and our officers have intense advanced western training, yet this is still not good enough to help them make good decisions when on duty. <br /><br />Why don't we try to fix our own county before attacking others? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-28767638552760477992010-11-16T04:07:57.466+03:002010-11-16T04:07:57.466+03:00Greetings,
This is a message for the webmaster/...Greetings,<br /> <br /> This is a message for the webmaster/admin here at susiesbigadventure.blogspot.com.<br /><br />Can I use part of the information from your post right above if I provide a link back to this site?<br /><br />Thanks,<br />DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-61235132128291444932010-11-15T22:00:48.491+03:002010-11-15T22:00:48.491+03:00Susie, I find your blog more and more disturbing. ...Susie, I find your blog more and more disturbing. You describe a world gone insane and yet you continue to live there. <br /><br />I was talking to my husband about your blog just yesterday and I asked him whether he would consider moving to KSA if he were offered the job of a lifetime (i.e. bags of money in addition to it being a profession he adores) and he said yes. I was appalled, until he said that with all that money, I could live in Europe and he'd come home to see me on the weekends. <br /><br />If it's love that keeps you in Saudi Arabia, Susie, then I say that this is a total perversion of love. You're suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Get out. Now.A Canadian Readernoreply@blogger.com