tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post3989727131121362667..comments2024-03-23T02:00:27.106+03:00Comments on SUSIE of ARABIA: Much Ado About NothingSusie of Arabiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-51711142375769180392013-02-09T12:23:07.644+03:002013-02-09T12:23:07.644+03:00power prash
"Be carefull..the ones that make ...<a href="http://www.easytvshop.com/power-prash-pakistan.html" rel="nofollow">power prash</a><br />"Be carefull..the ones that make you smile are the same ones that can shatter your heart."<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13212078210991763770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-27707332329077572062010-03-28T14:04:16.226+03:002010-03-28T14:04:16.226+03:00In India there's no distinction. Whoever has t...In India there's no distinction. Whoever has the job sells undergarments. Haven't noticed any hanky panky by the men yet. They go about it in a clinical fashion!Evilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956995516980092188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-56384214484849994962010-03-02T22:53:30.039+03:002010-03-02T22:53:30.039+03:00Ive never understood this mentality of men being t...Ive never understood this mentality of men being the only ones to sell undergarments to women. First of all, it forces the men and women to interact, not to mention its embarassing for the woman who has to tell this complete stranger her bra or underwear size and then the man gets a mental image in his head of what the woman looks like.<br />So sexist! Imagine if it was the other way around, it would never be allowed.<br />I see nothing wrong with women selling other women undergarments, if anything thats how it should be. I was in morocco over the summer and its the same there. Sleezy men selling undergarments to women. So what happens is the husband is forced to go and buy the undergarments for his wife, but most times hes busy so they wife has to go and buy it herself.Rene´s Bare Essentialshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16308212836561045324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-18103954552278042152010-02-28T05:52:11.610+03:002010-02-28T05:52:11.610+03:00This will never cease to amaze me. If I walked in...This will never cease to amaze me. If I walked into a Victoria's Secret or a La Senza over here and found salesmen wandering around, I would immediately be moving along to a female-staffed shop (as would the majority of female shoppers). I definitely think there is ample opportunity for enterprising Saudi females to open up home lingerie parties where females can help females (as it should be...and in the privacy of home!).Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05432842450432274534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-37072635932223110022010-02-27T15:20:36.127+03:002010-02-27T15:20:36.127+03:00Susie
This men selling female lingerie shops is a...Susie <br />This men selling female lingerie shops is as crab as this Female Shopping malls that is going on Saudi Arabia right now..lolA Free Spirithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11092199467173222942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-54513712409731879292010-02-27T14:51:26.655+03:002010-02-27T14:51:26.655+03:00Imperfect said We Saudi me are hypocrites ..ooh .Y...Imperfect said We Saudi me are hypocrites ..ooh .You tell a punch of Saudi men : You hypocrites ! and they wouldn't understand what you are saying.I think people of my country are kept away from learning and understanding the truth about the world for ages and ages especially the ladies.ladies are kept in the dark .We should be patient to bring back the light & truth to them.Thank youA Free Spirithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11092199467173222942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-70366410882522962022010-02-27T02:27:28.776+03:002010-02-27T02:27:28.776+03:00To hear the story of Saudi Arabian and Somali Bri...To hear the story of Saudi Arabian and Somali British Muslim Girl, who's a loving follower of Susie of Arabia, and see saudi arabia through the eyes of a young girl, able to love and question, her people her beleifs, and just write about her life and interests,<br />click<br />www.somaliarab.blogspot.com<br />xx<br />NazHijabis On Ranting Tour.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09017302125786435772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-54697016656522255182010-02-27T02:22:41.826+03:002010-02-27T02:22:41.826+03:00I don't know if i forgot to paste the link..so...I don't know if i forgot to paste the link..so here it is...<br /><br />http://saudirevelations.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/understanding-hijab/Maha Noor Elahihttp://www.saudirevelations.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-81184551050862891762010-02-27T02:21:38.378+03:002010-02-27T02:21:38.378+03:00Hey Susie..I am back :)
When I said that I don'...Hey Susie..I am back :)<br />When I said that I don't want us all to be copies of each other, I meant "all nations"...<br />anyway, I am in a hurry to respond to those who addressed me, but here is the link about the link to the topic about hijab as I promised you. Hope you find it useful.<br />http://saudirevelations.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/understanding-hijab/<br /><br />Be back soon :)<br /><br />ThanksMaha Noor Elahihttp://www.saudirevelations.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-5495137914005757282010-02-27T02:20:37.035+03:002010-02-27T02:20:37.035+03:00Hey Susie..I am back :)
When I said that I don'...Hey Susie..I am back :)<br />When I said that I don't want us all to be copies of each other, I meant "all nations"...<br />anyway, I am in a hurry to respond to those who addressed me, but here is the link about the link to the topic about hijab as I promised you. Hope you find it useful.<br /><br />Be back soon :)<br /><br />ThanksMaha Noor Elahihttp://www.saudirevelations.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-52739663373117101812010-02-26T23:50:22.542+03:002010-02-26T23:50:22.542+03:00Oh, it seems they'll never learn. They enjoy ...Oh, it seems they'll never learn. They enjoy recommending lingerie to women too much to let it go. I like the picture you have posted in this blog with the table of underwear piled in a public market. I definitely wouldn't have the guts to buy anything from there as I already have a hard enough time buying that sort of stuff at the mall with all the salesmen glaring at me to see which item I will choose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-67551366083947228782010-02-26T21:53:29.248+03:002010-02-26T21:53:29.248+03:00@أبو سنان
when was the last time you visited Saudi...@أبو سنان<br />when was the last time you visited Saudi Arabia? <br />In most of the big lingerie stores, there are young Saudi salesmen, who work as part timers, so race is not the issue here. From very reliable sources, I know that some businessmen believe that women working in such stores will hugely affect their interests. Businessmen have power over almost anything in Saudi Arabia, and doing something against their benefits might cause serious problems to those who oppose them. It's not race nor religion this time although it might appear to be so because the businessmen are shifting the focus to that area, and they have the influence and the authority to make the media cover up their nasty intentions. <br /><br />Regards<br />MahaMaha Noor Elahihttp://www.saudirevelations.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-35595538164465105612010-02-26T19:00:29.881+03:002010-02-26T19:00:29.881+03:00Susie
I would have to agree on the racial issue th...Susie<br />I would have to agree on the racial issue that is what I believe supports the segregation issue in businesses. <br /><br />I don't hear the KSA say that they could replace all the foreign males salesman for foreign females in women's undies section. That would only allow the very Saudi males to decide Saudi women are not capable of buying their own underwear- so the men must/can/will go buy them off foreign feminine hands... then the boycott would truly turn against women in KSA: if that would become the option...don't discard it people- we hear stranger things from there.<br /><br />But money is a factor- question is how much would it take to bring these business to their knees? I am not sure women in KSA have that kind of buying power...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-58259928127773497052010-02-26T15:51:34.932+03:002010-02-26T15:51:34.932+03:00Susie,
Good luck with the boycott. This really is ...Susie,<br />Good luck with the boycott. This really is a Swiftian situation. But I guess if they start to apply logic to social mores in RSA, where does it all end? <br /><br />Have you thought about starting an on-line underwear shop in Saudi, owned and run by women?Undercover Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10577931944980469254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-46315713182723355972010-02-26T12:02:43.588+03:002010-02-26T12:02:43.588+03:00I'm just having issues on the quality of the n...I'm just having issues on the quality of the news articles in our newspapers! I feel they're very superficial and barely touch on the core of the problems. <br /><br />I do support the boycott, and I just find it ridiculous that men still sell intimate apparels to our females!Ashrafhttp://xforourhealthx.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-89165399106144993862010-02-25T18:09:00.748+03:002010-02-25T18:09:00.748+03:00Wow, that would be problematic for the buyers. Th...Wow, that would be problematic for the buyers. Thanks for the insight.Slamdunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13087161268629251860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-26399686178501578072010-02-25T12:41:40.404+03:002010-02-25T12:41:40.404+03:00Susie when reading you I really got as angry as yo...Susie when reading you I really got as angry as your are.<br /><br />But I would welcome your views on the comment made above by (name in Arabic) about the racial issue. That seems like an avenue worth exploring if you want the full picture.Nathalie H.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16806509041466785588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-12028180983379238302010-02-25T08:49:13.021+03:002010-02-25T08:49:13.021+03:00This is so absurd, so silly, so amazingly absurd, ...This is so absurd, so silly, so amazingly absurd, how can anyone take Saudi Arabia seriously?<br /><br />Only because they sit on top of so much oil.<br /><br />What a silly law/regulation. It just doesn't make sense because it encourages the two sexes to mingle at the cash register.<br /><br />Sheesh.<br /><br />Will someone please, please, ask the King to change this silly, stupid, absurd law?<br /><br />Now?<br /><br />~Another anonymous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-56021714100160093832010-02-23T23:14:14.812+03:002010-02-23T23:14:14.812+03:00Hi Susie! I found the link to a young Saudi woman&...Hi Susie! I found the link to a young Saudi woman's blong on the <br />web site of a newwpaper of my country, Italy. From there I found your blog. <br />I was curious about how an american woman went to Saudi Arabia. I've read the <br />biography of a British young woman, her mother British and her father Muslim, <br />don't remember which country he was from. When his two daughters were old <br />enough they were "sold" (Sold is the translation of the Italian title of <br />the book) to some cousins the married them and brought them to their own <br />country. It was not Saudi Arabia. In the end, one of the two daughters, <br />the one that wrote the book, was able to escape with the help of a journalist <br />and or her mother, while the other couldn't leave her children and remained <br />there. So, with this terrible story in my mind, apparently just one of many, <br />I landed on your blog.<br />I went to Gulf seven years ago. At that time I had a boyfriend who was an officer <br />of the Italian Navy, and for a short period (that became a very long one) he worked <br />on an American base in Bahrain. I was there for three weeks, and I think it was <br />something completely crazy I did. I had to study so I brought books with me, but <br />actually I didn't do very much. Actually I coudn't do anything else than stay in the <br />residence my boyfriend had: I didn't have a car so I couldn't go anywhere interesting, <br />and no interesting places are in Bahrain except for swimming pools and shopping malls. <br />So the rare times I went out were on weekends and when we got invitation for some <br />party or we invited my boyfriends colleagues for dinner. In addition my English <br />was very poor, so it was embarassing for me to participate to parties. And actually <br />I was much younger than my boyfriend and his colleagues ans colleagues' wives. <br />Sometimes we went to eat at restaurant. I still distinctly remember once, the <br />first time I think, when a family came in I couldn't stop staring at those people. <br />One man, maybe two, a couple of kids ans several black dressed women. Some young, <br />some older, only their eyes visible. <br />They were sat at the table looking at the men and the children eating. They couldn't <br />because there were no curtains to protect them from the look of the other men in <br />the restaurant. What shocked me so much was the big spread between rich and less <br />rich. It was not unusual to see young women go out together for lunch, nothing on <br />their hair (Bahrain is not conservative as Saudi Arabia, I could go with shorts <br />and wear my bikini in the swimming pools with no problems), black dresses not closed <br />so the short skirts were clearly visible <br />together with their legs. I saw the long line of cars of men from Saudi Arabia <br />that cross the Bahrain border in the weekends to go to bars and drink alcohol. <br />Sometimes in bars of big hotels, with Philipine bands of women wearing barely <br />a bikini.<br /><br />How is your son's life? Does he feel happy?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603697684685484297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-66225408428254107162010-02-23T21:24:08.164+03:002010-02-23T21:24:08.164+03:00There is also a definate racial issue here. Let m...There is also a definate racial issue here. Let me explain. <br /><br /> If it was just about segregation of the sexes, why are Saudi women FORCED to spend a lot of time, often alone, with their male drivers?<br /><br /> If it was just about segregation, why let men work in these types of stores?<br /><br /> An underlaying reason is that there is a basic assumption that a Saudi woman would never consider doing anything "haram" with these workers because they are, for the most part, from places in Africa and the Indian sub-continent.<br /><br /> So the racist assumption is not only that Saudi women are not possibly going to be attracted to such men, but from the male Saudi point of view, that these people are almost not even really men.<br /><br /> There is no other way to explain why these people can evade the strict segregation between males and females.<br /><br /> Ask yourself this, would these stores have employed Saudi men for these jobs, if Saudi men were willing to "lower" themselves to such jobs? If not.......why not?<br /><br /> Would the average Saudi man let another Saudi man act as his driver? If not, why not? Why would Saudi families let their women be driven around by men, but not Saudi men?<br /><br /> It is very clear that there is a huge racial side issue to the whole gender segregation issue.أبو سنانhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04213826171467402183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-74520392521731232172010-02-23T17:27:42.176+03:002010-02-23T17:27:42.176+03:00Hey Susie, nice to meet you :)
I'm an expat A...Hey Susie, nice to meet you :)<br /><br />I'm an expat Aussie living in India, and yes, men sell women's underwear there also. Ridiculous. Not as widespread and across the board as Saudi, but in the more traditional sections, yes. In modern department stores it's women, which is a relief.<br /><br />Interesting blog... :)♥ Brajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693196044262677095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-49187756428421087252010-02-23T17:21:05.003+03:002010-02-23T17:21:05.003+03:00Idiocity at its best. I already told Chiara that I...Idiocity at its best. I already told Chiara that I believe it's all in women's hands. <br /><br />I think men in KSA are hypocrites, and I am sorry but we are not just talking about buying panties, why do women wear big abayas, only to have men sizing them into "lingerie"? HUGE CONTRADICTION.<br /><br />Great post Susie.*https://www.blogger.com/profile/10569248404287306578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-87570927660396684482010-02-23T16:40:22.027+03:002010-02-23T16:40:22.027+03:00If this wasn't so sad and voyeuristic, it woul...If this wasn't so sad and voyeuristic, it would almost be laughable. Little steps add up to big changes. It won't always be so. Women are too smart to be downtrodden much longer. (See Blogitse today!)<br /><br />As usual, you are a shining light.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03201759918154593244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-87068778450157380142010-02-23T16:23:04.836+03:002010-02-23T16:23:04.836+03:00Hi Yoli - That's a great comparison!
Hi Ano...Hi Yoli - That's a great comparison! <br /><br />Hi Anon @9:18A - He's definitely changed since we moved here. In the states I worked for many years with men and it was never a problem. If I were going to work here - which I don't plan on doing - it probably wouldn't be selling lingerie...<br /><br />Hi FreeSpirit - I'm so glad you are on our side. I wish more Saudi men would see the light, like you.<br /><br />Hi Anon/Ellen - It's not at all the same thing. Many of the shops here are small and the salesmen can be very pushy and like to hover over women customers - it feels creepy and inappropriate. Maybe it's one of those things where you really have to experience it yourself...Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-24926469508171103642010-02-23T15:03:32.195+03:002010-02-23T15:03:32.195+03:00Hey Susie- It is hypocritical. I've been to De...Hey Susie- It is hypocritical. I've been to Debenhams and had a salesman hovering around me while I tried to select some undies, probably afraid that I would shoplift more than the desire to know what size I am since I had bags with me but it was still unnerving. I've been to an Evans where the two Filipino men were respectful and stayed away while I was in the lingerie section. You never know what experience you'll have. If I want a male guard while I shop then I'll bring my husband! If the businessmen of lingerie shops want to line their pockets with our money, they best listen to our protests :-)TRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00804679664231016434noreply@blogger.com