tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post4013355611893262420..comments2024-03-23T02:00:27.106+03:00Comments on SUSIE of ARABIA: When Religious Debate Becomes a Capital OffenseSusie of Arabiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-74381757283811306962013-02-01T23:33:01.698+03:002013-02-01T23:33:01.698+03:00Hi Noor - I have questions, but that doesn't m...Hi Noor - I have questions, but that doesn't mean I am not happy. I don't agree with many things that go on here, but that doesn't mean I'm not happy. I write posts that are positive views of life here and others that highlight negative things about living here. I know that there is no perfect place. I have been with my husband for 35 yrs and we still love each other. He wants to live here. What do you expect me to do?Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-70541007300046969992013-02-01T23:14:17.639+03:002013-02-01T23:14:17.639+03:00Why are you still living in KSA. It is obvious you...Why are you still living in KSA. It is obvious you're not happy there...Noornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-78559347978503682872013-01-18T13:06:54.802+03:002013-01-18T13:06:54.802+03:00Thanks, BigStick - Thanks for pointing this out. ...Thanks, BigStick - Thanks for pointing this out. It certainly is a big area that I have a problem with. My idealistic views always try to give religions the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise I find it all quite depressing! Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-5840283836747137572013-01-18T07:01:20.178+03:002013-01-18T07:01:20.178+03:00The only problem is that, that is countered by ano...The only problem is that, that is countered by another where a woman taunted him and she was torn apart. This was accepted as a good thing. So, you have to excuse me when I state that no Abrahmic religion tolerates the other. In every Abrahamic religion it is specific about beng able to lie to those who are not of the same religion and if you look you will find that being kind is only to those who believe as you do not to those who do not. So, no all religions do not teach tolerance for each other as loving your neighbor is only about your neighbor who believes as you do. This is not only how it is taught but it is also practiced in how the other is treated. Thus if you do not believe as the x religion does then you will have to pay mafia money, be exiled, or must convert. Why do you think there is the death penaty for heretics, apostates or blasphemy? Tolerance is not included. Why do you think this is jiyza tax (mafia money?) Tolerance is not included. I could go on as you know I can. bigstick1http://voicesofthefaceless.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-51970930939010490292013-01-18T00:59:41.279+03:002013-01-18T00:59:41.279+03:00Thanks, CoolRed - I totally agree. Having religio...Thanks, CoolRed - I totally agree. Having religion forced on me has always been a real turn-off for me. Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-75343489272728212292013-01-18T00:52:05.799+03:002013-01-18T00:52:05.799+03:00When your religious beliefs and dogma are founded ...When your religious beliefs and dogma are founded on shaky ground..then enforcing belief and punishing anything and everything that deviates is proving only one thing...you do not have true faith in your religion or that god favors it specifically. If force must be used to keep people inline regarding YOUR opinion on YOUR religious beliefs...then f**k your religious beliefs. They are weak at best and hypocritical at worst. Coolred38https://www.blogger.com/profile/07502256532402473484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-55861153592902453342013-01-14T14:36:08.260+03:002013-01-14T14:36:08.260+03:00Hi Andrea - I am in my 6th year now living here in...Hi Andrea - I am in my 6th year now living here in Saudi Arabia. This past year things have improved for me. I still don't have a driver, but I have some wonderful new friends who have made quite a difference in my life here. I have also stopped waiting around for my hubby to take me places and show me his country because he has no interest in doing that - so I have been making plans on my own and it's made a world of difference for me. Thanks so much for your concern - but I think I'm doing okay now! Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-25577945353057183382013-01-14T14:30:33.152+03:002013-01-14T14:30:33.152+03:00Hi Songwriter - I hate it when I ask religious que...Hi Songwriter - I hate it when I ask religious questions that are met with offense and not with answers. Thanks for your comment.Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-71646919637368584122013-01-14T14:25:08.634+03:002013-01-14T14:25:08.634+03:00Hi BigStick - Basically all religions teach tolera...Hi BigStick - Basically all religions teach tolerance for others (loving your neighbor and all that stuff), but practicing what they preach is an entirely different matter. Muslims love to tell the story about how an old woman mistreated the Prophet every day for a long time by throwing garbage at him as he walked past her house on the way to the mosque. He never reacted to her abuse. One day she was not there and he learned that she was ill. So he went in to visit her and see if there was anything she needed. She was so moved by his compassion and ashamed of her past actions that she accepted Islam on the spot. It's a great story and is a great example of the "coexist" theory, but one that is unfortunately not truly followed by many Muslims.Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-72969960050126180442013-01-14T14:12:30.309+03:002013-01-14T14:12:30.309+03:00Hi Jerry - With the opening of the king's much...Hi Jerry - With the opening of the king's much touted center for religious tolerance, * http://cnsnews.com/news/article/saudi-king-opens-religious-tolerance-center-europe-spread-message-islam * it would appear that maybe the Saudis' idea of religious tolerance only works one way. It seems really contradictory to promote religious dialogue outside of Saudi Arabia yet jail people inside the country for doing the same. The only religious tolerance that Saudi Arabia seems to be interested in promoting is tolerance of Islam. Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-75552803258840694712013-01-14T09:27:40.858+03:002013-01-14T09:27:40.858+03:00Oh Susie, i asked you in the other blog where you ...Oh Susie, i asked you in the other blog where you are born, and found the answer in your heading links. I hope living in that culture will not be so difficult for you, because your personality is developed in a free country and now you are living in a "culture of contradictions". I hope you will not experience any distressing incident. Take care and God bless!Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06044386271018560595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-63955356875233472702013-01-12T14:27:07.770+03:002013-01-12T14:27:07.770+03:00If polytheists were tolerated, they would still be...If polytheists were tolerated, they would still be in control of Meccan pilgrimage places.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-26388510778209658152013-01-10T09:04:54.651+03:002013-01-10T09:04:54.651+03:00The offense ignited by questioning is not unique t...The offense ignited by questioning is not unique to Saudi or Islam; I think it applies quite well to all monotheistic religions. Obviously the ramifications will vary drastically from a democracy to a theocracy.Songwriter F Spacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08010069487652485443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-58628470516356168282013-01-08T08:32:47.496+03:002013-01-08T08:32:47.496+03:00Quite frankly there is no coexists of monotheistic...Quite frankly there is no coexists of monotheistic faiths. That is more than evident across the span of history as they hunted down and killed all those pagans who were tolerant. This is just but another continuing saga of some fools believing that monotheist beliefs will be compatable at some level. They have never been since inception and they never will be as they were never designed to co-exist with another belief. This is even true today. The only reason people of beliefs get along today is not due to their devout religious stance but due to there lack of it. <br /><br />The whole co-exist theory is nothing but a farce; if it wasn't then you would see different senarios being played out across the middle east and africa than what is currently going on. So if it quacks like a duck, it waddles like a duck and it looks like a duck then it is a duck. The duck is nothing but deception and the winner takes it all. Religion particular monotheist (the intolerant) has always played this game and always will. <br /><br />The pagans learn this the hard way. I always hope that we stop going down this course but......... I am not seeing it just yet. Let's hope for less religious devotion and more human compassion. bigstickhttp://voicesofthefaceless.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-32635171035775082362013-01-08T05:49:49.269+03:002013-01-08T05:49:49.269+03:00I wonder how the current king can explain his nois...I wonder how the current king can explain his noisy promotion of religious tolerance outside of the country, but still exclude any open discussion in his own country. <br /><br />I guess whatever fools the infidels in Europe is ok as long as they can keep living in the 7th century at home. It is news like this that keeps people like Robert Spencer in business.Jerry Mc Kennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395712495722374971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-1990603808200531272013-01-07T01:14:24.188+03:002013-01-07T01:14:24.188+03:00Thank you for sharing information. those of us ble...Thank you for sharing information. those of us blessed tolive and a free and peaceful land have a hard time realizieng how extreemest religions can prosicute in the name of *good.* I'm sure they excuse themselves before the Holy as *just beein too observant!* Well, I hope they exjoy the praise of people here. In Heaven they will answer to God!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com