tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post5752476809626207594..comments2024-03-29T14:07:48.770+03:00Comments on SUSIE of ARABIA: Here - Drink This!Susie of Arabiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-10469065794799231612010-06-02T03:33:18.257+03:002010-06-02T03:33:18.257+03:00I didn't find this post funny at all--especial...I didn't find this post funny at all--especially when you talked about the elderly woman who is going to be lashed.<br /><br />When it comes to women's rights, the only way to describe SA is "backward".<br /><br />I'm sorry, though not surprised, to hear how your husband is returning to his conservative (dare I say backward?) roots.A Canadian Readernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-91229818276095916972010-06-01T01:10:42.353+03:002010-06-01T01:10:42.353+03:00Hi Betty Ann - I like that word "scandalous!&...Hi Betty Ann - I like that word "scandalous!"<br /><br />Hi CuratorOfDreams - You are so lucky to have such a liberal Saudi husband. Mine was a long time ago, but the older he gets, the more he regresses back to being very conservative. Glad to hear your hubby would draw the line at having co-workers nibbling on your breast!!!Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-83243579676779092572010-05-31T19:11:45.075+03:002010-05-31T19:11:45.075+03:00@2Shea! LOL!!!
My husband is saudi. He doesn'...@2Shea! LOL!!!<br /><br />My husband is saudi. He doesn't like abaya or hijab, he doesn't like restrictions on women. He likes for me to do what I want. To meet and work with whom I want.<br />But he is very much against me letting other men lick my breast!!!!!<br /><br />And so am i!<br /><br />Tooooooo sickening! <br />Thes scholars prove that the issue is not weather women are to mingle with men. But that segregation makes men into sick perverts.<br />Segregation has finally fried these scholar's brains!Curator of Dreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305797538440059236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-45697110595688031972010-05-31T14:09:59.191+03:002010-05-31T14:09:59.191+03:00This breastfeeding report was absolutely scandalou...This breastfeeding report was absolutely scandalous. As you said, nobody would ever believe it if it weren't true. Thanks for the info.Betty Annnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-28593416425476196492010-05-30T18:03:03.465+03:002010-05-30T18:03:03.465+03:002Shea ... too funny!!!!!2Shea ... too funny!!!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03475842920988404601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-57325423408804420932010-05-30T17:55:14.754+03:002010-05-30T17:55:14.754+03:00Hi Wendy - I personally feel that the gender segre...Hi Wendy - I personally feel that the gender segregation here causes more social problems than it tries to prevent. The way it is set up, men are relieved of all responsibility if they cannot control themselves because it is all the woman's fault for tempting him. Having respect and self- control are the keys, but obsession and awkwardness is what the segregation creates.<br /><br />Ah 2Shea!!! I can't believe it. Adam and I were rolling on the floor as we read what you had to say. I'm thinking of making a post out of what your wrote!Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-20893615252826708862010-05-30T17:49:03.538+03:002010-05-30T17:49:03.538+03:00Hi Pepe - Yes, marrying cousins is common in many ...Hi Pepe - Yes, marrying cousins is common in many cultures, but I agree - this idea is just too far out there. <br /><br />Hi BananaAnne - I agree that merely treating others with due respect and exercising self-control is all that's required for civilizations to peacefully exist.<br /><br />Hi Inal - Thanks for your comment - It's all just too absurd to try to figure out the mechanics that would be involved in this crazy idea...<br /><br />Hi Anon/Kristina - It IS a pretty repulsive thought, isn't it? Yuk!!!<br /><br />Hi Suroor - I know!!!<br /><br />Hi Hamdah - I find this really confusing. You are saying that Saudis don't really listen to what he has to say, but I've read articles where he has been described as "Adviser to the Royal Court," "member of the Saudi Shura Council and a judicial counselor," "vice-minister of Justice of Saudi Arabia," "A writer, a lecturer, and a speaker, he is a prominent figure who actively defends Islam against the fundamental and militant ideologies of groups such as al Qaeda who have been gaining popularity in Saudi Arabia in the last few years," "a top religious scholar and an advisor in the court of King Abdullah," etc etc etc. So apparently what he says must carry some weight if he advises the King, no?Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-57268854331402088592010-05-30T03:23:58.697+03:002010-05-30T03:23:58.697+03:00Hey Susie, FINALLY commenting on your blog (it'...Hey Susie, FINALLY commenting on your blog (it's your favorite Niece) - feel free to edit (can you edit?), I'm not even sure if I've clicked the correct buttons below...I want my name to show as '2Shea'...what an idiot, I can rant and rave, but don't know how to post a comment on a blog...JEEZ...so here goes, if I get cut off, let me know and I’ll resend or do what I need to so it all displays (you'll probably want to remove this first paragraph/run-on sentence)-or maybe you’ll think the whole thing is too ‘out there’ to publish and you can just keep it for your personal enjoyment - I’ll love ya anyways...<br /><br />When I first read this story I was outraged, but then later found the humor and have many questions...<br /><br />First all, does this not presume the woman must be pregnant, or have a nursing child? What if she (or her husband) is sterile? What if she is past child-bearing age? What if she has had a mastectomy? Maybe this is yet another way to radically reduce women in the workplace. I know there are medications/hormones women can take to cause them to lactate - I see this as a big boost for pharmaceuticals in Saudi. Or maybe women could opt for prosthetic breasts that can be filled with milk…offer assorted flavors and such.<br /><br />We all know coworkers are not static. So every time a new employee is hired, this ritual will have to occur. Working women would basically have to be continually lactating, and I predict a drastic increase in job turnover occurring.<br /><br />Since women must be covered, at least until the 5 nursings are completed, I guess she would have to have panels/flaps on her abaya, like a Nursing Bra. This could become a sign of prestige in Saudi. Whenever you see a woman wearing one of these with breast flaps, you’ll think to yourself, “Wow, that woman is a PROFESSIONAL!”<br /><br />Does this follow for women who may want to work in a services industry, like a sales clerk, or waitress/cashier? Will men have to carry punch-cards with the various female employees names? Every time they nurse, they get their card punched? I guarantee the McDonald’s with the female cashier will have way more business than the one without. They would probably have to start charging a restaurant entrance fee, because very likely a man would not be hungry after nursing from several women. It might be common to send your husband out to pick up dinner and he comes back empty-handed because ‘he’s full’. Saudi’s would come to understand the “But Hooter’s has the best wings!” defense that American men use. And women would know why their husband insists on driving to the Pizza Hut 20 miles away rather than the one down the block…<br /><br />Let’s go beyond co-workers…Does this open the door for women to freely interact in society? Could a woman set a chair at the entrance to a mosque for a month or so, and once she has fed all the male attendees (5 times), have free access to the mosque? Would you be allowed to go to the grocery store or run errands by yourself once you have nursed the male workers at the stores and other places you frequent? Once you have nursed all the men in your area - the workers, the neighbors, the homeless people - a woman could freely walk about her community. Maybe a special day could be set aside for a ‘Nursing Holiday’ (kind of like Halloween) in which the men go door to door and nurse from women at their residences. This holiday would probably have to occur once a week in heavily populated areas.<br /><br />It seems to me, Saudi Arabia would become awash in breast milk. Maybe the men would become so tired of breastfeeding that they would choose to stay in, and thereby turn the tables. All the men would stay indoors and women could walk about freely. This would end up still complying with the segregation laws, but the roles would be reversed.2Sheanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-78930865096608841862010-05-28T17:48:43.780+03:002010-05-28T17:48:43.780+03:00@ Susie - I just wanted to be sure about the baby ...@ Susie - I just wanted to be sure about the baby thing.<br /><br />You know this whole stupid issue wouldn't be an issue if there wasn't this stupid KSA male/female segregation. Certainly it is not followed by many of the royal family princes.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03475842920988404601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-29862721883246623462010-05-28T11:30:50.873+03:002010-05-28T11:30:50.873+03:00Alobaikan isn't a scholar - he is a talkative ...Alobaikan isn't a scholar - he is a talkative person who wants fame and only fame !<br /><br />Ignore such things - they won't add anything and they won't even influence anything either!<br /><br />People in Saudia don't bother hearing him- he's always like that ! He he heHamdahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-7698049735119229742010-05-28T10:19:51.961+03:002010-05-28T10:19:51.961+03:00Oh hahaha! This is hilarious and sad at the same t...Oh hahaha! This is hilarious and sad at the same time!Suroorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07151400258859526990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-30995195562734738092010-05-28T08:19:41.958+03:002010-05-28T08:19:41.958+03:00Hello Susie,
Having breastfed myself for a year a...Hello Susie,<br /><br />Having breastfed myself for a year after my daughter was born, nothing in regard to breastfeeding could be more repulsive than the thought of a grown man, especially a work-mate trying to breastfeed.<br /><br />Given the strict segregation in KSA, it is remarkable that such a suggestion could be made to insult women's dignity in such a way. <br /><br />Breastfeeding is a special sort of nurturing which really is reserved for small infants and mothers and if culturally appropriate, very close friends and family.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />KristinaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-50229131791044682822010-05-28T06:31:35.830+03:002010-05-28T06:31:35.830+03:00What I don't get Susie, is how they could conv...What I don't get Susie, is how they could conveniently do away with basic human anatomy?! Or do they think women are truly from Venus?!<br /><br />Then they compound it by 'conveniently' suspending the part of a woman's breast being arwah. To which they now would attach witnesses to make it 'formal and legal'.<br /><br />But one blogger did point out as he said he was ducking, that maybe what we might have to question is where in Islam such 'loopholes and technicalities' could even become pronounceable!?<br /><br />These guys should have left it at being lawyers for petty thieves, because they truly suck at being "Scholars"...Inalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00830165481055076034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-28132687140905472482010-05-28T02:39:03.144+03:002010-05-28T02:39:03.144+03:00Ugh. As Hijabis on Ranting Tour said, I am so sick...Ugh. As Hijabis on Ranting Tour said, I am so sick of these random people making Islam look so weird/backward/sex-obsessed. I am hoping to adopt children someday Insha'Allah, and Alhamdulillah the breastfeeding rule would make the children my mahrams. However, breastfeeding GROWN MEN just so you can be seen without hijab in front of them is disgusting and totally unnecessary. If Muslims just followed the rules of hijab (in clothing and in manners) and treated the opposite sex with respect, with pure intentions and without exceeding boundaries, then these problems (and solutions) wouldn't come up.Banana Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05199135544354929727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-8436418277108424342010-05-27T18:44:44.722+03:002010-05-27T18:44:44.722+03:00Marrying their cousins already sound so weird to ...Marrying their cousins already sound so weird to me, although I know that this also happen in other parts of the world, but this one is just over the top. Hhmm...<br />I'm wondering what could next?Ze Cabreirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182940638180354643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-90468462607652837452010-05-27T18:30:29.666+03:002010-05-27T18:30:29.666+03:00Hi Wendy - Breastfeeding someone else's baby, ...Hi Wendy - Breastfeeding someone else's baby, I'm okay with. But breastfeeding a grown man to legitimize the purpose of co-mingling with him is totally counter-productive to why men and women are forbidden from co-mingling in the first place. <br /><br />Hi Miss Chatterbox - You get it and I get it - unfortunately these nutty religious scholars don't.Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-78981532053934520142010-05-27T18:07:21.021+03:002010-05-27T18:07:21.021+03:00So not only will the female worker have to whip ou...So not only will the female worker have to whip out a (convieniantly lactating) breast and feed her male co-worker, but furthermore the other men in the office will have to gather round and watch, so that it may later be verified??!!!<br /><br />And the crazy thing is, this is to promote 'modesty' and prevent inappropriate sexual activity/feelings between non mahram men and female colleagues! So a man who is sexually attracted to a colleague will be rendered mahram by being breastfed.. several times.. and instantly all relations will become platonic... Does this sheikh not see anything wrong with this picture?!misschatterboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16620056873898706488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-4949387222405091702010-05-27T17:16:05.257+03:002010-05-27T17:16:05.257+03:00Susie, you and I are North Americans and have been...Susie, you and I are North Americans and have been taught not to breast feed other women's infants for health reasons but it's quite common in some countries. Don't forget that years ago baby formula and baby bottles were unheard of in some areas (still are) so it was a common practice. I totally understand how that comes to be. Sometimes a woman needs a babysitter and the baby has to be fed. I met my husband's milk mother and siblings in Saudi this winter and it was quite touching actually.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03475842920988404601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-77261832394097716952010-05-27T16:34:33.566+03:002010-05-27T16:34:33.566+03:00Hi MissChatterbox - In order to prove that someone...Hi MissChatterbox - In order to prove that someone is your "milk" relative, I would think that several men would have to actually witness a woman breastfeeding another child five times - because the word of a woman here in this society isn't good enough. If someone knows how this is actually proven, please help me out here. <br /><br />Hi Anon @ 10:24Pm - I have read about this on several sites and forums. There are some sketchy and questionable items in this story so I don't know the authenticity of it. I find it hard to believe that no one came to woman's aid or seemed concerned about her welfare. The claim that the youths were shouting "Get out of Arabia" is another red flag - as most Saudis do not call their country "Arabia."<br /><br />Hi Nasser - It's a wonderful video - I'm going to be posting it soon. <br /><br />Hi Anon @ 8:47AM - There is absolutely no logic in this whole idea - none at all. <br /><br />Hi Anon @ 3:15PM - That just doesn't sound credible that women in Riyadh breastfeed their drivers...<br /><br />Hi Anon @ 3:43PM - I wish it were...<br /><br />Hi Anon @ 4:04PM - Yes, the email address is correct. susieofarabia@gmail.comSusie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-65459637392060661722010-05-27T16:23:28.649+03:002010-05-27T16:23:28.649+03:00Thanks to all the commenters - forgive me for not ...Thanks to all the commenters - forgive me for not addressing each one individually...<br /><br />Hi Tarabulsi - Self respect and self control are all that's needed in gender mixing and so many people around the world are capable of this. Why the citizens of KSA aren't trusted to be able to control themselves is something I cannot understand. <br /><br />Hi Lori - On another blog, a commenter said to not condemn these poor sheikhs until a "scholarly opinion" is handed down. These ARE scholars who said this! People need to use their own brains - what's really scary is that many of them don't and just follow blindly.<br /><br />Hi Hijabi - Good point about adoption. There are valid reasons for "wet-nursing" a child not one's own. But this flimsy excuse is just sick, sick, sick.<br /><br />Hi Anon/Aussie Lady - That story about the mass wedding of child brides is totally a lie. I investigated it when I first heard about it months ago. The girls are young family members of either the bride or the groom. Traditionally young girls dress up to play a role in the celebrations in a way similar to how flower girls are used in Western weddings. They are NOT the ones who got married.Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-75645079172130460712010-05-27T16:04:04.431+03:002010-05-27T16:04:04.431+03:00Off-topic comment :
Susie, is the email on the con...Off-topic comment :<br />Susie, is the email on the contact page a valid one ? I would like to send u something .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-55933690348380271282010-05-27T15:43:48.856+03:002010-05-27T15:43:48.856+03:00This must be exaggeration.This must be exaggeration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-30009153394620867992010-05-27T15:15:18.183+03:002010-05-27T15:15:18.183+03:00When I lived in Riyadh, I heard that this was how ...When I lived in Riyadh, I heard that this was how some Conservative families got around the issue of having their woman in the car with an unrelated driver - the driver was fed by the woman 5 x and thus became a milk-son...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-51755531455596766002010-05-27T08:47:21.178+03:002010-05-27T08:47:21.178+03:00I don't know how the sheikh could say that to ...I don't know how the sheikh could say that to begin with. Logically speaking, if a woman is alone with a non male relative in Saudi Arabia wouldn't she be arrested for that? And then..if the police caught her wouldn't the fact that she was indecent be another case against her? Lashings and jail? And of course then there is her husband...living in such a culture such as Saudi Arabia would he look the other way or divorce her on the spot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-74506998861269079692010-05-27T08:17:25.808+03:002010-05-27T08:17:25.808+03:00OOOMMMGGG! I'm speechless... I don't even...OOOMMMGGG! I'm speechless... I don't even know what to say... except for... <br />eeewww!Angel Darlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07448714419764794219noreply@blogger.com