tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post7653384522047119883..comments2024-03-23T02:00:27.106+03:00Comments on SUSIE of ARABIA: On Pork, the Other White MeatSusie of Arabiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-33775523785131534862010-05-20T23:02:21.513+03:002010-05-20T23:02:21.513+03:00In Acts 10:1-48 The Lord declared eerything clean ...In Acts 10:1-48 The Lord declared eerything clean and he commands us not to call it unclean. This was after Peter had a vision and the Lord explained it to us. I believe that everything has been made by god. To believe otherwise is to be legalistic and that is not what I believe Christ died for. He came to save the lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-87437915158617749392010-05-20T22:49:20.244+03:002010-05-20T22:49:20.244+03:00There are scriptures in the bible that also say th...There are scriptures in the bible that also say that all meat is clean and therefor can be eaten by men. I think you are talking about the old testament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-59043550769502276382009-11-07T20:32:24.099+03:002009-11-07T20:32:24.099+03:00Mian, Germany
Well,
1 Will you like to eat such an...Mian, Germany<br />Well,<br />1 Will you like to eat such an animal who eats his own excreta.<br />2. Pig is forbidden because its meat contains tiny nematodes or insects which are not killed even if you cook it at your best (when the thing itself is bad, how can heating make it clean)<br />3. Pig is quite closer to Human Anatomy. Therefore, the viruses and other bacteria that attack porks can easily be mutated and cause diseases in Humans as well. For example, Swine flu.<br />4. When you are unhappy with a person, you say to him, PIG. Why? Because its nasty or considered very bad thing? If the above statement is true, why you eat such thing.? If it is not true, then why you call the person with whom you are unhappy, A PIG?<br />5. We all talk about religion, discuss it, kill for it, get killed for it, fight for it but never act on it. Why? Action Speak wiser than words. No matter how strong christian, Jew or Muslim we are, if our actions do not speak of it, its useless to claim to be a Christian or Jew or Muslim.<br />6. I am still unable to solve the issue about old and new versions. God revealed only one Torat, one Bible and One Quran. We only find in history one Quran, which in fact justifies the revealations of Torat and Bible. But we can never find in history one single Torat revealed on prophet Moses A.S or Bible revealed on prophet Jesus A.S. Why?<br />7. One last point, science keeps on changing. Things that were correct hundred years ago are false today. and things that are correct today might turn incorrect in the light of future research. But religion remains the same no matter what happens. Better, we keep the religion as such and focus on science.<br />I am waiting for the answers.<br />Thank and best regardsMianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07920319545662457772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-6868139872616369732009-09-14T09:05:44.548+03:002009-09-14T09:05:44.548+03:00It is no coincidence that all the major religious ...It is no coincidence that all the major religious scripts advised people not to eat pork and shellfish because at the time of writing those religious scripts, these foods were very dangerous to eat since they contained bacteria and parasites that could be harmful to humans. Nowadays however, we all have wonderful things in our kitchens called "refrigerators" which has effectively made it safe to eat pork and shellfish. However, since religious texts are never updated, their food safety advice has also never been updated to reflect new technology.Lunch Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12764898156569097696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-78067944826225374522009-09-13T01:36:48.756+03:002009-09-13T01:36:48.756+03:00Matthew 15:10
Jesus called the crowd to him and sa...Matthew 15:10<br />Jesus called the crowd to him and said,"Listen and understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean'"<br /><br />Link: http://pointsoftruth.com/foodlaw.htmlZe Cabreirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182940638180354643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-91957302537949202502009-09-12T02:21:13.137+03:002009-09-12T02:21:13.137+03:00Nabila Pena. Science does NOT say Muslims are rig...Nabila Pena. Science does NOT say Muslims are right about not eating pork. It merely says don't eat it.<br /><br />I think it's forbidden to eat because we are to respect the pig because of it's unique similarities to humans and uses in medicine.<br /><br />That is just my opinion, but a much nicer one than villifying one of Allah's creations that helps us so much.Jewelsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-49623894426846198162009-09-09T23:45:35.495+03:002009-09-09T23:45:35.495+03:00Caitlin--no Islam does not forbid shellfish like J...Caitlin--no Islam does not forbid shellfish like Judaism does, nor does it forbid mixing meat and dairy. Kosher and Halal are distinct, although there are areas of overlap, eg forbidding pork, and slaughter by dissecting of the major vessels in the neck,with a ritual blessing accompanying the slaughter. <br /><br />Chinese food often is cooked with pork renderings even where it is not identifiable as pork meat based, this adds to the difficulty in eating halal in China or even a Chinese restaurant in North America. Chinese pastries in Hong Kong and China are also often made with pork fat. A challenge indeed! Must eat Macao egg custard tarts instead! LOL :)Chiaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-14911396481435948062009-09-09T21:17:11.660+03:002009-09-09T21:17:11.660+03:00Does Islam forbid prawns/shrimp like Judaism?
I k...Does Islam forbid prawns/shrimp like Judaism?<br /><br />I know many Jews who eat prawns/shrimp but not pork, even though they are both not kosher. It seems to be a stronger cultural taboo even if it's on the same religious level.<br /><br />Pork is so ubiquitous in China that the Chinese language actually has the same word for "pork" and "meat". You can get lamb/mutton in western China because of the Muslim population but otherwise pork is hard to avoid.Caitlinhttp://www.roamingtales.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-18114392741158184122009-09-08T19:41:04.343+03:002009-09-08T19:41:04.343+03:00I would like to point out that the Quran has not b...I would like to point out that the Quran has not been written by anyone, but inspired by Allah taala. He prohibited pork to muslims, and He (Allah) DID KNOW that science will prove thousands of years later that eat pork is unhealthy for the human being.<br />Anyway, for us, muslims, the fact of not to eat pork is a question of Faith, no matter what science says; but if finally science says we are right, so better...Nabila Anabel Peña Gomezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09389758726098624325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-79109253264695978682009-09-06T03:13:33.931+03:002009-09-06T03:13:33.931+03:00I never eat meat, beef, pork, chicken ...it is not...I never eat meat, beef, pork, chicken ...it is not for me.Peggynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-9145585187183865812009-09-05T18:11:38.002+03:002009-09-05T18:11:38.002+03:00Thanks to All the Commenters - I really enjoy read...Thanks to All the Commenters - I really enjoy reading your input. I know that people, including myself, have eaten pork for centuries. I personally think it's the best tasting meat of all as far as flavor goes. Eating pork is so strictly adhered to here in KSA that many people actually believe they will die if they eat it. When I saw the video, I thought it would make an interesting post - I am not a fan of Joel Osteen, but I know he is quite famous and has a large following. I am not trying to spread misinformation about how bad eating pork is for you and I do not have an agenda. I thought this would rile people up, and I guess it did. I really like what a couple of commenters said about how it's not really that important what we put INTO our mouths - it's more important what comes OUT of it.<br /><br />Hi Dina - I've heard people here call it the Swine Flu but mostly it's referred to as the H1N1 Virus.Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-77972438016552586002009-09-05T18:11:14.000+03:002009-09-05T18:11:14.000+03:00Thanks to All the Commenters - I really enjoy read...Thanks to All the Commenters - I really enjoy reading your input. I know that people, including myself, have eaten pork for centuries. I personally think it's the best tasting meat of all as far as flavor goes. Eating pork is so strictly adhered to here in KSA that many people actually believe they will die if they eat it. When I saw the video, I thought it would make an interesting post - I am not a fan of Joel Osteen, but I know he is quite famous and has a large following. I am not trying to spread misinformation about how bad eating pork is for you and I do not have an agenda. I thought this would rile people up, and I guess it did. I really like what a couple of commenters said about how it's not really that important what we put INTO our mouths - it's more important what comes OUT of it.<br /><br />Hi Dina - I've heard people here call it the Swine Flu but mostly it's referred to as the H1N1 Virus.Susie of Arabiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315336613944665651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-5920316939156624482009-09-05T16:55:03.497+03:002009-09-05T16:55:03.497+03:00Porcine valves, insulin, anything (including gelat...Porcine valves, insulin, anything (including gelatin) that are necessary for medical reasons are permissible in Islam as Muslim scholars including medical ethicists have determined. IF and when alternatives are available they are preferable but not necessary, eg. no need to mess with a fully functioning porcine valve; or porcine insulin that is well tolerated especially if other types are not, etc.<br /><br />Otherwise I agree that certain dietary injunctions had a lot to do with desert, and hot country living, and hygiene limitations early on, and were meant to promote health.<br /><br />Also Osteen's version of Christianity is "special", and his views on and knowledge about pigs suspect.<br /><br />Good topic!Chiaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-25917811630239773242009-09-05T05:00:48.410+03:002009-09-05T05:00:48.410+03:00Aren't pigs suppose to be very smart?Aren't pigs suppose to be very smart?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-35018514344498548082009-09-05T04:57:25.449+03:002009-09-05T04:57:25.449+03:00I am becoming so very tired of the fear. . .really...I am becoming so very tired of the fear. . .really it only generates more fear. No shellfish? What about all the people who live near the ocean and use it's abundance to survive? They are "sinful", really? I don't eat shellfish and have a slow thyroid because of lack of iodine??? Hello??? Do you really believe the Supreme Being, however you name it, will judge you by what you eat, or what's in you heart and how you treat your fellow man? I can think of so many more objections to this arguing with each other over food that I am getting a headache, just kidding :) BUT not so much about the fear thing though, REALLY. <br />LindaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-49805916822496493152009-09-05T00:51:33.434+03:002009-09-05T00:51:33.434+03:00I agree with Anonymous. How silly would you feel,...I agree with Anonymous. How silly would you feel, if having read the Bible yourself, you found out that you'd be mislead for years. Your own soul after all. I could quote you chapter and verse (more than one), but I'm not going to. Read it. <br /><br />Or, think about it. Look at Christ, who though He shared in the very nature of Godhead, did not see that Glory as something to be grasped; but, instead, He emptied Himself and took on the form of a servant, submitting Himself in obedience - even to death on a cross. <br /><br />He became Sin itself for us, and now the wrath of the Father pours out on the Son, God taking the punishment back into Himself that we rightly deserve. <br /><br />Why are we talking about dietary laws? If you think that eating or not eating, observing sacraments or not, observing Holy days or not, performing Good Deeds or not has anything to do with it - then the Son would never have had to come at all. We could simply earn our way into heaven. Go ahead and do that if that is your religion; but it is certainly not Christianity.BrightAmbernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-29007767661000704382009-09-05T00:29:53.418+03:002009-09-05T00:29:53.418+03:00What I wonder ... is it haram to have pig valves p...What I wonder ... is it haram to have pig valves put in the heart to save one's life? Pig tissue can be used for burns - all sorts of things that benefit man. Goats are garbage eaters and Muslims certainly eat lots of goat!!Janienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-7835126624549780422009-09-04T19:18:50.119+03:002009-09-04T19:18:50.119+03:00You know pigs are used for a lot of medical stuff....You know pigs are used for a lot of medical stuff. My grandfather has a pig valve in his heart other wise he would have died. He got this 15 years ago and has had no promlems since! Also some muslims believe that if you eat pork you take on the characteristics of a pig! Wow where is the medical evidence to back this up? My grandfather certainly doesn't seem to have any pig characteristics and he eats pork and has pig body parts! I don't think that bacon is all that healthy simply because it is a fatty meat, however there are many other food issues as well. Larger fish seem to have high concectrations of mercury and other bad stuff simply because they eat smaller fish and the smaller fish eat other smaller things and the longer the larger fish stays alive the more concentrated all these bad things get in his body! I think the best thing to do is to become educated and research these things for yourself so that you can make healthy decisions. Too much beef is not good either. A little meat with a lot of vegetables is probably much more healthy for a person anyway. This is just common sense. you have to be careful now adays about anything you eat. Tuna in the can has to be ate in moderation now because of the mercury problem in fish. (I think its mercury anyway research it) my doctor advised me when I was pregnant about fish and also advised me about my children eating canned tuna. Again I won't go into detail here as you can look up mercury in fish yourself, my point is that you need to be informed so that you can make educated decision. You can't blindly follow what a pastor preacher or anyone else tells you. In todays world you REALLY HAVE TO BE EDUCATED to make informed decisions, even when it comes to religion. You need to use some common sense and ask yourself do you really think that anyone on earth can go without sinning of course not and god knows this! Everyone has a conscience and knows right from wrong! Killing is wrong, judging people is wrong, talking about people behind their backs is wrong, stealing is wrong, I think you get my point. People will of course sin, as hard as we try we will. God simply wants us to do our best and stop and think before we do the things we do and try to live a good life and a moral life, and remember that Jesus dies on the cross to save us from our sins, and we need to accept him as our savior and god will forgive our sins because he knows that it is impossible to live your life without sinning. However this does not give you the right to go out sinning and living your life in a sinful way it just means that if you do sin he will forgive you if you ask him. The acceptance of Jesus christ in your lives is the only way for your salvation!San Antonio Cicilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00643255307592038405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-67480078668240056352009-09-04T17:54:27.999+03:002009-09-04T17:54:27.999+03:00Matthew 15:10
Jesus called the crowd to him and sa...Matthew 15:10<br />Jesus called the crowd to him and said,"Listen and understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean'"<br /><br />My husband's grandmother ate pork every day of her life and she lived to be 102 years old.The Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04071652918414242294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-27311329293898739642009-09-04T16:07:55.357+03:002009-09-04T16:07:55.357+03:00Interesting post and equally interesting comments....Interesting post and equally interesting comments. Great dialogue! I don't eat pork as I'm a vegetarian. ;-)EG CameraGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12803759124643467711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-70489417742554121272009-09-04T15:42:39.402+03:002009-09-04T15:42:39.402+03:00Susie: I eat pork and since my heart problems the ...Susie: I eat pork and since my heart problems the doctors say beef should be avoided. The Bible teaching were for a day gone by when there could have been bad health problems from eating pork. Since the pork is raised better now it is just a safe as other meats.This Is My Blog - fishing guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03826128050970967135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-64915001869885489362009-09-04T10:33:16.130+03:002009-09-04T10:33:16.130+03:00I don't believe that the US government should ...I don't believe that the US government should have that kind of control over the lives of it's citizens. The founding fathers believed in checks and balances to avoid a government that is intrusive and harmful to its people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-68926565141925279442009-09-04T10:30:40.536+03:002009-09-04T10:30:40.536+03:00As someone already commented, the laws forbidding ...As someone already commented, the laws forbidding the eating of pork were given to keep the people from getting sick from meat that wasn't perserved or cooked correctly. We all know that when pork isn't cooked correctly it can cause problems. Also, the references you used are in the Old Testament. I believe that all of the laws given in the Old Testament were given to a people who were "children". After all, they were often referred to as the Children of Israel. They needed everything spelled out to them because they had proven many times that they couldn't follow simple instructions from Jehovah. I believe that when Christ came, he fulfilled many of the laws that were given to the Children of Israel. For example, instead of "an eye for an eye", He taught that now they needed to "turn the other cheek". I think that Christ didn't give any dietary laws because the people had grown in wisdom and knowledge and knew when to avoid eating pork. I'm a Christian and I know when to avoid eating pork. Most of the time, I love it, but if it isn't cook right or hasn't been perserved correctly, forget it.Jeanninenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-59106500891924033162009-09-04T10:24:20.402+03:002009-09-04T10:24:20.402+03:00The only way to really understand and not be led a...The only way to really understand and not be led astray by false teachers and wrong interpretations is to read the Bible yourself. I googled Joel Osteen, and what I read on his site didn't match my understanding of scriptures. I think ppl have a responsibility for their own soul, and shouldn't just blindly follow the teachings of others. Otherwise, how do you avoid false teachings and cults?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3569425364802315563.post-86898786965983504332009-09-04T10:09:55.687+03:002009-09-04T10:09:55.687+03:00You know I know a guy who drank whiskey every day ...You know I know a guy who drank whiskey every day smoked like a chimny and ate a pound of bacon every morning and live to be like 90!San Antonio Cicilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00643255307592038405noreply@blogger.com